Dear all,

the 4th special session convened on request of Finland (on behalf of EU) is being held. UN-Secretary-General has just appealed to the HRC members for end to nightmare.

Case of Darfur is a typical example of gross and systematic human rights violations. Moreover, the Government of Sudan is unable to to fulfil its basic obligation, which is to protect its citizens against violations. The resolution L44 on Darfur adopted during the 2nd resumed session was not a consensus. It did not fulfil the expectations mainly of the European delegates. It seems that they are right in their efforts to make Darfur the subject of an international action. The delegates who were supporting the African draft of resolution submitted by Algeria are rather partial and do not accept the facts, which are written down in all independent reports on Darfur, also those prepared in the frames of special procedures.

Let me remind on one specific situation, which I have already stressed during the discussion within SHRC, when Indonesian delegate crossed out the words “tragedy in Darfur” and wrote down “situation in Darfur” on his paper published on HRC Extranet. This situation itself means a lot.

 I invite you to discussion while things are developing in  Geneve,

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Jan Pawlak

Young Center (MC), Poland

SHRC co-ordinator

ther is some reason why the AU is not condemning the Sudanese govt.

we dont know why, apart from the idea that if they do, it may become a full scale multinational war soon.

South Africa offered to help with the refugee problem, but this is not solving the problem.

Somebody wants these peoples (the victoms) land - theres something in it (oil, minerals... something).

Is ther an ethnic element to this genocide?

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Avishkar Govender

eThekwini-Durban
KwaZulu-Natal, South Africa
SADC - AU

From what I have gathered thus far, the genocide seems to be motivated by both political and ethnic divisions. The ethnic minority in Darfur (or at least elements within the minority) have expressed some desire to break away from the Sudanese gov't and form their own state. The gov't and various pro-Khartoum militias, not wanting to see Darfur independence and not tolerating that ethnic minority, have responsed with despicable crimes against humanity. At least that is how I haveunderstood it thus far. Correct me if I'm wrong.

ahh...

wouldnt it just be the funniest thing if we discovered that this ethnic minority thats being persecuted were descendents of the Type "C" Nubian people, perhaps we should get some of the South Africans in the Sudanese Refugee Camps to check their DNA?

Of course given what the Type "C" Nubian people's descendents are demanding in Sri Lanka, the call for secession and independence in Sudan may be easy to explain.

I assume from this that the Sudanese govt already has tied up an oil&gas deal with China, and therefore the other AU states waiting in line with caps in hands, arent going to say anything against the Sudanese govt? sad really, that we can quantify the value of human life based on the number of tankfuls of petrol we can extract...

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Avishkar Govender

eThekwini-Durban
KwaZulu-Natal, South Africa
SADC - AU

Please note that LDYS and JD have jointly proposed a resolution on this topic, which is in the documents centre and is to be debated at the upcoming IFLRY General Assembly. We in LDYS are trying to run a domestic campaign on this issue, and hope other organisations will follow suit.

China does have a regrettable role in all of this - their disrespect for human rights is very worrying and is helping Sudan get away from its moral and legal obligations to protect its people - and we should all condemn them for their inaction.

mmmmh... its difficult... we need to find a victim or group of victims who are independent of (ie. not dependent on) the Sino-Islamic trade pact.

hence the need for the Indians from Nubia to reveal themselves... i think if the indians were working in the refugee camps, cos their relatives were dying there, the Sino-Islamic trade pact would be in a corner. That would also let the AU fencesitters off the hook, while justifying (ethnically) South Africa's contribution, in the eyes of our public.

http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Ithaca/1335/Anthro/sud_afr.html

The thing is that we have a culture of going to war to protect kith and kin... so lets find some family members in the refugee camps... bring the mountain as it were...

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Avishkar Govender

eThekwini-Durban
KwaZulu-Natal, South Africa
SADC - AU

in terms of the LYDS/JD sponsored resolution calling upon...

- the Government of Sudan to accept an effective international peacekeeping forces in the Darfur region without delay and to comply with UN Security Council resolutions requiring the cessation of hostilities and the disarmament of the Janjaweed militia;

1. the Sudanese Govt has accepted a AU-UN peacekeeping force (they're still working out details)

2. the Sudanese Govt has called for the cessation of hostilities and the disarmament the Janjaweed militia

Does this prove the relevance of IFLRY?

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Avishkar Govender

eThekwini-Durban
KwaZulu-Natal, South Africa
SADC - AU

trust 4 bangladeshi peacekeepers to get sent home for sexual crimes!

chaps, the point of being a peacekeeper is to PREVENT rape and harrasment not PERPETRATE it...

So much for my "let the Indians sort it out" theory... now every Sudanese women thinks all Asian men are rapists... that's just not right.

Guys... keep it in your pants - you're professional soldiers, not OVC mercenaries!

 

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Avishkar Govender

eThekwini-Durban
KwaZulu-Natal, South Africa
SADC - AU

Nice thread thanks for sharing all this....i hope people get awareness form this...

 

 

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